[ Creed Discuss ] Just a Refresher... READ IT!

From: "Creed Discussion List Admin" <listadmin@debbir.com>
To: "Creed Discussion List" <creed-discuss@debbir.com>
Date: Fri
29 Nov 2002 17:31:44 -0500

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   - Creed recently resumed their Weathered World Tour... and are planning on returning to many of the States, as well as those that have been missed for whatever reason, in Summer 2003.  If Creed has not yet been to your area, keep an eye on Creed.com, and join Creed e-news to be kept up to date on new concert dates as they become available.
   - The third album, "Weathered", was released November 20th, 2001, and held #1 for 8 weeks strait.  There is, as yet, no solid plans for the fourth album, but keep tuned to creed.com or Creed e-news for any details as they become available.  There are rumors that a 4th album will be released following the Weathered World Tour... along with the LONG-LONG awaited Creed VHS/DVD.
   - You can sample the entire album "Weathered" in streaming audio at http://creednet.com/audio/weathered/weathered.html
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